The status of women in Islam: from haraam to makrooh

From forbidden to barely acceptable, if they abandon all independent will.

This is, apparently, not a hoax.

From the Pakistani Council of Islamic ideology, the following has been issued:

Islamabad – Sharia Correspondent: The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) concluded their 192nd meeting on Thursday with the ruling that women are un-Islamic and that their mere existence contradicted Sharia and the will of Allah. As the meeting concluded CII Chairman Maulana Muhammad Khan Shirani noted that women by existing defied the laws of nature, and to protect Islam and the Sharia women should be forced to stop existing as soon as possible. (bold added)The announcement comes a couple of days after CII’s 191st meeting where they dubbed laws related to minimum marriage age to be un-Islamic.

After declaring women to be un-Islamic, Shirani explained that there were actually two kinds of women – haraam and makrooh. “We can divide all women in the world into two distinct categories: those who are haraam and those who are makrooh. Now the difference between haraam and makrooh is that the former is categorically forbidden while the latter is really really disliked,” Shirani said.

He further went on to explain how the women around the world can ensure that they get promoted to being makrooh, from just being downright haraam. “Any woman that exercises her will is haraam, absolutely haraam, and is conspiring against Islam and the Ummah,whereas those women who are totally subservient can reach the status of being makrooh. Such is the generosity of our ideology and such is the endeavour of Muslim men like us who are the true torchbearers of gender equality,” the CII chairman added.

Officials told Khabaristan Today that the council members deliberated over various historic references related to women and concluded that each woman is a source of fitna and a perpetual enemy of Islam. They also decided that by restricting them to their subordinate, bordering on slave status, the momineen and the mujahideen can ensure that Islam continues to be the religion of peace, prosperity and gender equality. (bold added)

I ask: is this a hoax?

The council of Islamic Ideology is an organ of the government of Pakistan and has a website.

The website lists 190 meetings, the record of which is written in Arabic script, and may well be in Urdu, so I cannot tell what has been decided. If 190 meetings have been recorded, it is reasonable to suppose that the webmaster is only a little behind in recording meeting 191.

Maulana Muhamed Khan Shirani is listed  on the website as the 14th chairman of this Institute, which advises the Pakistani parliament.

Its functions are described as :

As per Article 230 of the Constitution)

  1. The functions of the Islamic Council shall be:
    1. to make recommendations to Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament) and the Provincial Assemblies as to the ways and means of enabling and encouraging the Muslims of Pakistan to order their lives individually and collectively in all respects in accordance with the principles and concepts of Islam as enunciated in the Holy Qur’an and Sunnah;
    2. to advise a House, a Provincial Assembly, the President or a Governor on any question referred to the Council as to whether a proposed law is or is not repugnant to the Injunctions of Islam;
    3. to make recommendations as to the measures for bringing existing laws into conformity with the Injunctions of Islam and the stages by which such measures should be brought into effect; and
    4. to compile in a suitable form, for the guidance of Majlis-e-Shoora(Parliament) and the Provincial Assemblies, such Injunctions of Islam as can be given legislative effect.

.Where is the feminist outrage? I hear the sound of ….. absolute silence.



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Part of the scam by these taqqiyah weasels to spread the Shariah cancer is send Muslims to canada for a “refugee” claim as someone fleeing oppression and violence from an islamic hell-hole sanctioning the killing of homosexuals and the quasi-pedophilia for males to marry a child-bride. Then, once here on Welfare and in a self-segregated Muslim zones like Kipling and Dixon or Overlea park area, the same people demand Shariah law for THEM in canada and people like Kathleen Wynne allow them to have a Mosque in a Public School to spew hatred for canada and call for the killing of jews, Christians and homosexuals. Hard core Islamsists get Prayer Rooms at work and on Campus thanks to barbara hall , and one Pro-Iran group here along with Palestine House is free to protest in front of the Police and call for murdering the Jews( code word in Muslim-speak is Israeli’s ) while little children are used as shields and hold placards spewing hate or with pictures of bloody victims of war. It can only get worse as Wynne controls the OPP and Toronto Police while Barbara Hall uses the Human Rights Commission to bypass the Courts and Elections to make new laws and mock the old ones , or the OHRC will create a NEW Human Right and spit on the Charter Of Rights that everyone else has to live by. CAMH now wants to make Pedophilia a Mental Health issue from birth and only a Crime once the person acts on the impulse and rapes, or assaults a child. Pro-Shariah islamists will like it because Iran, saudi Arabia, Gaza and other OIC nation sanction Men2Child sex along with sex Tourism for the pedophiles here in canada and the USA. Sheema Khan from the Hamas-Linked CAIR-canada is on record Crusading for Shariah law in canada and almost got it thanks to the dolts running Ontario that courted the Jihadists votes. Shariah Law lost for now, but it’s practised in about 80% of the Mosques and many Government Housing units like Regent Park prison that traps people in poverty but gets used by Politicians to buy votes. Just ask yourself why canada has yet to see just 1 protest march by Pakistani’s denouncing the slaughtering of Christians in their homeland or the pakistani background Toronto-18 that wanted to murder up to 10’000 people in Toronto via trucks bombs. The Feminazi’s, GayStapo’s, Homofascists, islamofascists , CUPE, OPSEU, CAW, Liberals, and NDP have been silent on Honour killings and the Pro-Hamas group in PRIDE that stay quiet on how iran boasts about hanging over 4000 homosexuals as a favour to allah. And YES, not all muslims are Jihadists or endorse Terrorism , but the 1% ( 15’000’000) they claim to smear islam’s peaceful Quran , seem to have about a 90% support to continue by the overt silence which can be inferred as a tacit approval from the “Moderate” 1’400’000’000 that don’t seem to have the will, nor brains to seek them out and boot from the Mosques which includes the hate-filled Imam’s gay-bashing and inciting terrorism in canada.

old white

roger may be like me. I have difficulty creating paragraphs on my computer. I know that is a personal deficiency but what the heck. islam is an evil that must be excised.


Right on the money Roger. Now if we could only find a government that will represent your point of view. I’m all for mass deportation starting with the Khadar clan that Harper and Towes failed to properly deal with!


You raise an interesting point, Old White. Some centuries ago (in the 1300s roughly) the Papacy and the Holy Roman Emperor worked out a division of responsibilities in Latin Christendom between the secular arm and the religious arm of government, by the usual rough and tumble methods.
Islam never developed either a division between the secular and the religious spheres, not did it ever work out either a theory of government or a theory of a church. All it has is the community of believers, the ulema.
Thus conflicts in the Islamic world are made more dire by the fact that the state authority is not finally sanctioned in the Koran or the Hadiths. Moreover, we have as much right to call Islam a totalitarian political ideology as we have to call it a religion, because our idea of religion is restricted to the idea of the holy, where as their idea of religion knows no boundaries in any dimension: all of what we would call secular [worldly] arrangements are, by definition, not secular for Muslims as we understand the term, because everything is ordained by the Koran. We invest the world with distinctions that they know not.

old white

Dalw…. yes islam is defined by the Koran and the other Islamic teachings. we have to submit, die, or become slaves paying the jizya. people are not bright enough to understand what islam is. hell even muslims don’t understand what it is, they just blindly follow the imam. there is much more I could say but I usually keep my comments short. I am knowledgeable about the Koran, hadiths , sira and the other Islamic teaching and if you want to be afraid then really follow up on what has been written and taught to the followers of islam. only the truly ignorant could believe such crap.

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