Alarmists not giving up: I have seen this style of argument in university
February 22, 2010 2:22 pm Climate Science, Culture, Religion, ScienceFirst, Geoffrey Sachs. Then me, in five carefully worded megatons.
Geoffrey Sachs in the Guardian:
We are witnessing a predictable process by ideologues and right-wing think tanks and publications to discredit the scientific process. Their arguments have been repeatedly disproved for 30 years — time after time — but their aggressive methods of public propaganda succeed in causing delay and confusion.
Climate change science is a wondrous intellectual activity. Great scientific minds have learned over the course of many decades to “read” the Earth’s history, in order to understand how the climate system works. They have deployed brilliant physics, biology, and instrumentation (such as satellites reading detailed features of the Earth’s systems) in order to advance our understanding.
And the message is clear: large-scale use of oil, coal, and gas is threatening the biology and chemistry of the planet. We are fuelling dangerous changes in Earth’s climate and ocean chemistry, giving rise to extreme storms, droughts, and other hazards that will damage the food supply and the quality of life of the planet.
On the motives of those who oppose the global warming agenda:
“the same group of mischief-makers, given a platform by the free-market ideologues of The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page, has consistently tried to confuse the public and discredit the scientists whose insights are helping to save the world from unintended environmental harm.”.
Finally, it is our duty to obey:
“The IPCC and the climate scientists are telling us a crucial message. We need urgently to transform our energy, transport, food, industrial, and construction systems to reduce the dangerous human impact on the climate. It is our responsibility to listen, to understand the message, and then to act.”
So let us review his argument:
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Those who oppose us are against the scientific method itself, it is not a mere disagreement about some facts.
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Our side is filled with wonderfully intelligent minds.
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Their side is corrupt and evil.
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Obey or be damned.
And now I am going to give some of it back.
[After the passage of a few days since first reading the Sachs article, I realize what drove me and Antony Watts up the wall about it. It was not intended to rationally persuade anyone who differs in the least from its views. It was the equivalent of an officer slapping a dazed private, saying "get back in line, soldier. Nothing has happened". The entire eastern front has collapsed. The shattered wreck of armies is drifting past the position, and the officer is merely trying to cow the soldier back into line. It was an assertion of authority over weak minds, and the insult lies in the author's belief that we are weak minded. But he was not talking to us. He was talking to the wavering fanatics.]
First, this line of attack is entirely typical of all global warming alarmists whom I have encountered personally and in print, without exception. I have not met any global warmist who has failed to use his adherence to the dcctrine as a signal of his moral superiority, rather than as a position in a rational discussion. The most disturbing thing about warmists is their religious enthusiasm and intolerance.
Second, I have observed this form of argument many times before. I have argued with Jews, of whom Geoffrey Sachs is one, for over forty years on all matters political, theological, factual or legal. Many Jews, if not most, exhibit a strong tendency to overstate the argument in the terms used by Sachs. We shall discuss what those features are below.
Third, the global warming movement shows many of the features associated with ideological movements of the twentieth century: Feudianism, Boasian sociology, and subsequent intellectual movements making left-wing critiques of society (the Frankfurt School, Horkheimer, Marcuse et al). These were mostly Jewish in origin, composition, and working styles. These groups exhibited or exhibit:
- high degrees of authoritarianism: intellectual subordination of the group to a charismatic leader or his ideas;
- sharp in-group out-group distinctions, between the elect/the saved/the initated and the rest, who are divided into the possibly useful and the damned (those who knowingly disagree).
- a conspiratorial style: worldly success in ensuring members of the in-group are placed in the right spots to manage the propagation of the group’s ideas and the upward mobility of its members;
- Condescension towards and failure to respect the ideas of others. Indeed, failure to agree is a sign of psychopathoogy.
To summarize:
- The pattern of thought and behaviour of the global warming alarmists exhibits many resemblances to the intellectual fads of the 20th century.
- The style of argument of Geoffrey Sachs is particularly Jewish.
- People should not be cowed by Sachs’ style of discourse, particularly they should not be afraid of being called anti-semitic for saying that this style of argument is obnoxious, authoritarian, and anti-liberal.
Freud, Boas , Marcuse and their doctrines have turned into the equivalent of a pet rocks. Global warming via CO2 emissions is rapidly joining these intellectual poseurs on the rubbish dump of failed ideas.
The style of argument, the conspiratorial methods, the inability to withstand criticism from members of an out-group: all this will persist. It will simply find a new authoritarian ideology to latch onto.
So Geoffrey Sachs can go fuck himself.
Dalwhinnie


robins111 :
Date: February 22, 2010 @ 2:37 PM
This I think is the best description of the sniveling.
By James Delingpole
This has not been my experience of the internet, I must say. Au contraire – without wishing to flatter you too much, you blog-addicted, foaming-mouthed, swivel-eyed loons – I’ve found the comments sections on blogs to be bastions of wisdom, rough-hewn common sense, wit, and often amazingly well-informed insight. And I don’t just mean on my blogs. What I always find equally heartening is when you look up an article online by, say, Polly Toynbee or some crack-papering fraudster from the Met Office and find its inconsistencies and idiocies being torn to shreds by a readership far more intelligent and on the ball than almost anyone in the liberal commentariat.
And this, I think, is the crux of the matter. The main reason so many left-liberals so loathe and fear the internet is that it is a medium that favours the libertarian right. It completely bypasses all those institutions that Gramscian Marxists fought so hard to capture: broadcasters like the BBC, the liberal-dominated print media, the seats of learning. It allows real people to say what’s really on their mind, unfettered by politically correct pieties. It is part of the same grassroots phenomenon that has seen the Tea Party movement flourish in the US and it expresses a wave of public revulsion at the dishonesty and cant of our political leaders, as well as a yearning cry for liberty in the face of growing dominance by the state.
terraderma :
Date: February 22, 2010 @ 6:47 PM
So, to sum up the piece and the one comment posted: We’re right wing, anti-semitic losers who have a very strong opinion based on how we feel about things, but there’s no string of organizational or rational process behind our position; we just disagree because we THINK it’s going to diminish our freedoms.
Suggestion #1 : Read ‘Escape From Freedom’ by Erich Fromm
Suggestion # 2: Ponder the following: Anarchy would be a perfect political state, except that nobody will play by the rules.
Dalwhinnie :
Date: February 23, 2010 @ 7:23 AM
Gente ereader has been paying little or no attention to the facts of the AGW dispute. First, instead of no warming for the past ten years, the head of the Climate research Unit says there has been no appreciable warming for the past fifteen! So take out the GW in the AGW.
As to anti-semitic, I am always amazed at the extent to which Jews label all ideologies not their own: the Frankfort School, of which Fromm was a member, Marxism, Feudianism, Boas and his successors, and various other coteries of the Jewish left, as products if authoritarian persoanlities. Psychopathologize your opposition. It is a cheap trick, and the rest of us are on to it, or you, as the case may be.
I have also observed that defenders of these schools go apoplectic when the specifically Jewish nature of these leftisms is adverted to.That is, to them, fighting below the belt, whereas those who oppose these schools of thought are deformed by “authoritarian” personalities.
I have seen enough of this claptrap to know what it is and to call it by its real names.