BNP versus the UK Independence Party
May 28, 2009 8:46 am PoliticsI asked my friend the Dark Lord about the difference between the British National Party (BNP) and the UK Independence Party. He replied as follows:
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The UKIP is a one-issue party, anti-EU to be sure, but probably founded by Establishment insiders as a means to allow the Great Unwashed to blow off steam harmlessly. Then, when all the fuss dies down, it’s back to business as normal.
“Appeals to the educated”… Arf, arf.
That’s the presumptuous piffle of the eternally soft. Oh! If only we could talk in university coffee club language, with occasional references to thinkers we might have read in our studies, and have the masses swing behind us, wouldn’t it be wonderful?
Yes, it would, but it isn’t going to happen. The real issues in Britain are not the level of state economy or free enterprise, much as we would like them to be, but the collapse of the education system, the settlement of the nation by hordes from the Dark Ages, the corruption of the police force, the destruction of the legal system, and the denigration of all national traditions. And all this aside from the corruption in government that even the BNP could not have dreamed up.
The British National Party is talking to ordinary people. It is ordinary people. They are now John and Jane Normal. That’s why the Establishment is worried.
Every thing else is light beer.
And the UKIP is light beer–a waste of effort.
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Pissedoff :
Date: May 28, 2009 @ 10:08 AM
If I had stayed in the UK instead of moving to Canada in 1980, I would have been voting BNP before John Major got the boot. Would be voting for a similar party if one starts in Canada.
Luca :
Date: May 28, 2009 @ 12:56 PM
UKIP is a radical Euro-skeptic Tory splinter. They are a single-issue party that speaks to ordinary people offering a reasonable (albeit wrong) solution to the problems plaguing the country.
The BNP are re-branded fascists in the truest sense of the word. They advocate a locked-in Britain, protectionist and economically socialist. Their immigration and “voluntary resettlement” policies are odious. They capitalise on people’s legitimate concerns by advocating the use of absolutely extreme and/or impractical solutions. Using a jackhammer to remove a tooth decay cavity.
The populace’s legitimate concerns can be advocated within the Conservative Party if people could be bothered to actually get involved instead of expecting the Tories to read their mind and pander to their every whim. That’s not how leadership and democracy work.
The BNP collects those who can’t be bothered to make a difference in any way. Recipe for improvement and prosperity… yeah, right!
Dougf :
Date: May 28, 2009 @ 2:04 PM
“The populace’s legitimate concerns can be advocated within the Conservative Party if people could be bothered to actually get involved instead of expecting the Tories to read their mind and pander to their every whim.”
That is simply not true. Or rather it IS true IF one accepts that some Conservative functionary and/or one of its squishy leadership types have the right to define what ‘legitimate concerns’ really means. The ONLY difference between the Conservatives and Labour is that one is in and one is out. Other than that —- not so much. And even if these issues could somehow be meaningfully ‘advocated withing the Conservative Party’, that is a very long distance from those issues becoming the POLICY of the Party. Advocate all you want — just don’t expect anything to actually happen. THAT is why the BNP exists. Not because it appeals to racism per se, but because ‘certain thoughts’ are NEVER, EVER, to be discussed in public much less acted upon in any way. If the voter has ‘issues’ with the prevailing Parties, that poor soul has no option other than the BNP.
To expect the current incarnation of the Conservative Party to appeal to potential BNP followers is IMAO opinion, dreaming in technicolor. I agree that the BNP is very ‘unsavory’ in many ways, but the issues it addresses are IT’S Issues. And they are IT’S Issues because the other Parties WON’T address them at all except in meaningless babble-speak.
Kursk :
Date: May 28, 2009 @ 5:55 PM
Whether or not the BNP is your cup of tea, they are poised to make huge inroads in the next national election..
Then the fox will be amongst the hens..the British people, seeing BNP electoral success, will support the party even more in the coming years.
Laughed at till the day he passed away, Enoch Powell was right.Moreover, the traditional major parties have done all the damage to themselves.
They never listened to the people.
It is now a battle to literally save Britain.