Obama the Uniter
November 11, 2008 9:48 am American Politics, Freedom of SpeechAnother in a long list of continuing accomplishments of The One.
Oswego police are continuing their investigation of a Sunday morning melee that left a Barack Obama supporter gravely injured and a soldier who fought in Afghanistan charged with his beating…
About 12 people, including several soldiers, took the argument outside and the fight broke out, according to a restaurant waitress who declined to give her name.
“It was all over the new president,” the waitress said.
Police said no weapons were involved in the fight.
Moreno, who is majoring in wellness management, (wellness management?! – AG) is an Obama supporter according to his Facebook Web site, which features an Obama poster.
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Arran Gold
fernstalbert :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 11:34 AM
This will be considered a “hate crime” and there will be severe repercussions for those unenlighten non-supporters of the great, mystic, channeler of the known universe, Barack Obama.
RFC :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 11:43 AM
So, the winner of the fight gets arrested for….winning the fight?
Go Army!
Phil :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 12:57 PM
Title should say “smart ass college student gets his ass whooped”
old white guy :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 1:56 PM
even if he is commander in chief obama does not own the military.
skinnydude :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 7:04 PM
oh I think Obama’s got a loooong way to go to begin to compare to the lives lost over the big deception of ‘dares WMD’s in dem dare hills…’
Oh I bet you’re one of those right wing idiots tat actually still thinks there was wmds there aren’tcha…
Neil B :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 7:25 PM
“Another in a long list of continuing accomplishments of The One.” Saying that is a logical fallacy and there’s no excuse for not realizing it is. Maybe you’re just kidding around (in which case I can hardly imagine your musings deserve to be called “smoothly aged insights.”) In case anyone is actually confused: No, it is neither an accomplishment nor a failure fit for sarcastic twist as “an accomplishment” of Barack Obama. It’s just a fight between two people with no reason to believe they are typical either of Obama supporters or detractors, and even if they were it wouldn’t be blamable on Obama or his supporters or detractors. BTW I didn’t see evidenced as to which of the arguers was more to blame.
PS: You might get some insight into this sort of false reasoning by checking this link: http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-conservatives-argue.html.
delver23
RFC :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 8:37 PM
skinnydude;
I see a lot of dead Americans (mainly Conservative Christians) in The One’s wake. It’ll will make Bill Clinton and Janet Reno proud.
KEvron :
Date: November 11, 2008 @ 9:55 PM
“I see a lot of dead Americans (mainly Conservative Christians) in The One’s wake.”
tell it to your shrink.
KEvron
Maxwell Wolf :
Date: November 12, 2008 @ 5:29 AM
Neil B,
Thanks for the edification. I clicked on the link that you posted with eager anticipation, but imagine my consternation when it referred to only fifty-states in US. We all know that there are 57 states in US because The One has said so. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
Please correct that article.
Cheers!
Maxwell Wolf :
Date: November 12, 2008 @ 5:47 AM
skinnydude,
First let me thank you for “dem post dare”. Second, now that The One has been elected I hope you can gorge so that you longer remain skinny.
Actually I didn’t believe that WMD thing at all because I was reading the NYT. Yes, I know my mistake. I should have been watching Fox instead.
The day after Bush spoke about, Feb 27, 2003, NYT editorialized as follows. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9905E6D9153CF934A15751C0A9659C8B63
President Bush sketched an expansive vision last night of what he expects to accomplish by a war in Iraq. Instead of focusing on eliminating weapons of mass destruction, or reducing the threat of terror to the United States, Mr. Bush talked about establishing a ”free and peaceful Iraq” that would serve as a ”dramatic and inspiring example” to the entire Arab and Muslim world, provide a stabilizing influence in the Middle East and even help end the Arab-Israeli conflict.
I guess I was hooked on the “expansive vision” as well instead of “focusing on eliminating weapons of mass destruction”. Another good reason to suspect all that is written in NYT.
Cheers!
Neil B :
Date: November 12, 2008 @ 10:39 AM
Heh, Maxwell, everyone makes gaffes. Of course his having made that one doesn’t affect my argument anyway, so I’m glad that you acknowledge (by way of not offering a rebuttal) the validity of my real point. (I’ve got nothing against snark as long as you realize it doesn’t really prove anything.)
As for WMD, do you think Fox was *not* going along with the idea there were WMD (i.e., not just old left over shells) in Iraq! Remember that liberals criticize NYT for having some “conservative” (sadly in practice that came to mean Republican loyalism) streaks in it, such as reporting by “Queen of Iraq” Judith Miller, who later went to work for … Fox.
Real liberals like Scott Ritter were saying, no there likely aren’t WMD in Iraq. And as for the “everyone thought there was WMD in Iraq”, well wrong (per Scott and others) but the original intel had qualifiers like “maybe” but BushCo folks in PNAC and The Office of Special Plans scratched those qualifiers before telling us. Also, remember the Al tubes that really weren’t for missiles after all, etc.
Cheers to you too, sincerely. BTW if you are interesting in physics issues please visit my blog. BTW I believe anthropic “fine tuning” is a genuine sign of a Designer (not that meddled in the world after creation however) which plenty of conservatives should appreciate. I plan to post on that before long.
Arran Gold :
Date: November 12, 2008 @ 1:38 PM
Neil B,
re: argument style. That post was so infantile that it doesn’t merit thought.
re: WMD. I don’t watch Fox so I can only comment on NYT which stated that there were broader issues and that the endeavour was not entirely focused on WMD. Get over the Iraq war, it is finished. That is why it wasn’t even a point of discussion during the elections.
re: your website. Very nice site but given the date on last post it seems you are on sabbatical.
Neil B :
Date: November 12, 2008 @ 6:08 PM
Thanks for visiting my blog, Arran. I do need to update, look for a new post Thursday or Friday. As for the argument: my own point that the fight between Obama supporters and detractors didn’t reflect on Obama (the way the OP seemed to imply, or maybe just snark) was what I mean by my own point being validated. The link is just an overdrawn satire of how many liberals feel that conservatives try to argue with them, it is of lesser importance. Iraq? Well, the Iraq war is certainly not finished, although the administration behind it and its allies sure are in many ways.