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	<title>Comments on: Young Muslim lawyers versus Steyn: vast sense of entitlements meets the prick</title>
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		<title>By: dean spencer - fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>dean spencer - fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 00:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went through law school in the mid 1990s, I&#039;m not at all sure it&#039;s the law school process. It&#039;s more like some people sucking up what they need to bolster the views they&#039;ve already formed. Most of the people i remember were interested in expanding freedom of speech, but i&#039;m aware this issue has provided ammo for a whole new round of lawyer bashing. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through law school in the mid 1990s, I&#8217;m not at all sure it&#8217;s the law school process. It&#8217;s more like some people sucking up what they need to bolster the views they&#8217;ve already formed. Most of the people i remember were interested in expanding freedom of speech, but i&#8217;m aware this issue has provided ammo for a whole new round of lawyer bashing. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Whyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Whyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dalwhinnie:

Quite true; no historical perspective at all from the Osgoodniks. But not a surprise: Ian Hunter and Robert Martin have been declaiming about the dimness of law students for years.

The link to the discussion in Volokh&#039;s blog is illuminating. Nobody mentions the Alberta Statutes reference case, for example, which far pre-dates the Charter -- but some bright boy thinks the European Human Rights Code, of all things, informed the drafting of the Charter. Duhhh.

Of course, we&#039;re both old enough to remember the pre-Charter days, those knocks on the door in the middle of the night, the disappeared relatives, the gulags of Kapuskasing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dalwhinnie:</p>
<p>Quite true; no historical perspective at all from the Osgoodniks. But not a surprise: Ian Hunter and Robert Martin have been declaiming about the dimness of law students for years.</p>
<p>The link to the discussion in Volokh&#8217;s blog is illuminating. Nobody mentions the Alberta Statutes reference case, for example, which far pre-dates the Charter &#8212; but some bright boy thinks the European Human Rights Code, of all things, informed the drafting of the Charter. Duhhh.</p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;re both old enough to remember the pre-Charter days, those knocks on the door in the middle of the night, the disappeared relatives, the gulags of Kapuskasing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Blogger - Thursday, May 8th, 2008&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Blogger - Thursday, May 8th, 2008&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kursk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kursk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duggan..i wonder what your friend must think of the men Steyn only quotes..the ones who are real haters and would have his head in a millisecond if they could..i have no doubt that Mr.Steyn is angry..he rightfully told the three that their lies could have an impact on how long he inhabits this planet..

This is our future if we don&#039;t stop it now folks..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duggan..i wonder what your friend must think of the men Steyn only quotes..the ones who are real haters and would have his head in a millisecond if they could..i have no doubt that Mr.Steyn is angry..he rightfully told the three that their lies could have an impact on how long he inhabits this planet..</p>
<p>This is our future if we don&#8217;t stop it now folks..</p>
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		<title>By: jckirlan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you saw them as Canadian because they did not introduce themselves as such. In fact, the first girl called herself Pakistani but was born in Canada. 
Osgoode Hall has lost any semblence of respectability if this is the quality of their graduates.
We need to win this fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you saw them as Canadian because they did not introduce themselves as such. In fact, the first girl called herself Pakistani but was born in Canada.<br />
Osgoode Hall has lost any semblence of respectability if this is the quality of their graduates.<br />
We need to win this fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Duggan's Dew of Kirkintilloch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duggan's Dew of Kirkintilloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The battle is well and truly joined and there is no guarantee of victory.  Discussing the TVO broadcast with a dear and old friend, he told me he thought Steyn is a hater and implied that he is in this donnybrook, along with Ken Whyte, to sell books and magazines.  I said, &quot;So? And if they are? Just how do you propose to deprive the one of his right to express his opinions and the other to publish them, and leave our freedoms intact?&quot; We reached no conclusion, in a discussion that is overdue and will, I hope, continue in many arenas until we - the defenders of free speech - win. It puts us on the side of some very disagreeable people against friends,relatives and neighbours who identify their virtue, as Dalwhinnie points out, with the coervice powers of the state.  This is going to take a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The battle is well and truly joined and there is no guarantee of victory.  Discussing the TVO broadcast with a dear and old friend, he told me he thought Steyn is a hater and implied that he is in this donnybrook, along with Ken Whyte, to sell books and magazines.  I said, &#8220;So? And if they are? Just how do you propose to deprive the one of his right to express his opinions and the other to publish them, and leave our freedoms intact?&#8221; We reached no conclusion, in a discussion that is overdue and will, I hope, continue in many arenas until we &#8211; the defenders of free speech &#8211; win. It puts us on the side of some very disagreeable people against friends,relatives and neighbours who identify their virtue, as Dalwhinnie points out, with the coervice powers of the state.  This is going to take a while.</p>
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