Young Muslim lawyers versus Steyn: vast sense of entitlements meets the prick
May 7, 2008 2:38 pm Canadian Politics, Freedom of Speech, Islam and the WestI took a course in communications law at the University of Ottawa last year. As is usual in such courses, we had to deliver a class on a topic of our choice. One young man in the class gave his lecture on “freedom of speech”, contrasting Canada and the United States. He dismissed it as “an American concept”, alien to the concept of controlled speech which we have in Canada. He cited leftist, feminist professors of law; he repeated their views in the communications law class. I questioned him. When it got down to it, he frankly admitted that he did not trust the people of Canada to defend the right values, he had more trust in the Supreme Court and the specialized institutions of human rights commissions and state-subsidized Court Challenges program than in the electoral process and in Parliament. I told him a brilliant future awaited him in the Liberal Party. I thought him a scoundrel, another fatuous leftist whose only virtue was fthe frankness with which he disdained elected governments. He considered himself a “progressive”.
So when Mark Steyn went on Steve Paikin’s show last night, I considered the nature of the three young Canadians who are arguing with him about their rights. They are all lawyers. They are all Muslims. They seemed, from how they argued and what they said, to have learned their law from the same sources as my classmate.
Steve Paikin had to maintain peace between Steyn and his young Muslim contenders, and at times the show descended into everyone shouting at once. What was clear to me, was that the kids – I am at the age I will call them that – were unpreprared to discuss the fundamentals. One of their arguments was that, since the Human Rights Commissions are not criminal in nature, Steyn mischaracterized them when he said he had been subject to “criminal” prosecution. As if going to jail, being forced to pay a fine, and enduring years of state subsidized prosecution is somehow made better because it is not “criminal”? Well, can we agree it is prosecution for heresy?
The basis of their objection to Steyn was that they had been offended, and wanted MacLean’s to give them a mutually agreeable amount and type of rejoinder. Steyn pointed out that they had had exposure in seven Canadian major newspapers to make their point.
Paikin finally asked the question of them: do you have a right not to be offended? And apparently all the young Muslim lawyers can think about is how offended they have a right to be. They have been educated in Supreme Court rulings that have sustained the Human Rights Commission’s prosecutions of neo-Nazis. For them, there is no cultural experience of the Human Rights Commissions and hate-speech prosecutions as an exceptional novelty. This is the Canada they grew up in. They have no recollection of the Canada that existed before the Charter of Rights and Freedoms was enacted in 1982. When Steyn talks of Trudeaupia, he is referring to a reality that I perceived last night in the attitudes of these young Muslim lawyers. I found it deeply disturbing that they were incapable of discussing the real issues – objective facts about demographics – which lead to the apprehensions we all have about the future of western societies.
Does it matter whether the take-over is peaceful or violent, in the great scheme of things? Would it be better if it were peaceful? Would it make a difference? From what perspective? From whose? The debate was not engaged.
I saw three young Canadian lawyers, accidentally Muslims, and essentially people whose sense of entitlement is so vast they would crush free speech in this country and not even know what they were doing. I have seen too many young lawyers, white, brown, you-name-it, who have no idea whatever of our pre-Trudeau British constitutional freedoms and responsibilities, and no concern that they are so ignorant. All they want is a Supreme Court and Liberal government appointing the judges. Then they and their kind can rule us forever without interference from Parliamentary institutions. Our law schools are failing us. The Sock Puppets are altogether typical of what modern Canadian legal education is producing. Thank God for Steyn for bringing them up short.
Dalwhinnie


Duggan's Dew of Kirkintilloch :
Date: May 7, 2008 @ 4:35 PM
The battle is well and truly joined and there is no guarantee of victory. Discussing the TVO broadcast with a dear and old friend, he told me he thought Steyn is a hater and implied that he is in this donnybrook, along with Ken Whyte, to sell books and magazines. I said, “So? And if they are? Just how do you propose to deprive the one of his right to express his opinions and the other to publish them, and leave our freedoms intact?” We reached no conclusion, in a discussion that is overdue and will, I hope, continue in many arenas until we – the defenders of free speech – win. It puts us on the side of some very disagreeable people against friends,relatives and neighbours who identify their virtue, as Dalwhinnie points out, with the coervice powers of the state. This is going to take a while.
jckirlan :
Date: May 7, 2008 @ 5:52 PM
Funny you saw them as Canadian because they did not introduce themselves as such. In fact, the first girl called herself Pakistani but was born in Canada.
Osgoode Hall has lost any semblence of respectability if this is the quality of their graduates.
We need to win this fight.
Kursk :
Date: May 7, 2008 @ 8:57 PM
Duggan..i wonder what your friend must think of the men Steyn only quotes..the ones who are real haters and would have his head in a millisecond if they could..i have no doubt that Mr.Steyn is angry..he rightfully told the three that their lies could have an impact on how long he inhabits this planet..
This is our future if we don’t stop it now folks..
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Jim Whyte :
Date: May 8, 2008 @ 8:15 AM
Dalwhinnie:
Quite true; no historical perspective at all from the Osgoodniks. But not a surprise: Ian Hunter and Robert Martin have been declaiming about the dimness of law students for years.
The link to the discussion in Volokh’s blog is illuminating. Nobody mentions the Alberta Statutes reference case, for example, which far pre-dates the Charter — but some bright boy thinks the European Human Rights Code, of all things, informed the drafting of the Charter. Duhhh.
Of course, we’re both old enough to remember the pre-Charter days, those knocks on the door in the middle of the night, the disappeared relatives, the gulags of Kapuskasing….
dean spencer - fox :
Date: May 9, 2008 @ 5:53 PM
I went through law school in the mid 1990s, I’m not at all sure it’s the law school process. It’s more like some people sucking up what they need to bolster the views they’ve already formed. Most of the people i remember were interested in expanding freedom of speech, but i’m aware this issue has provided ammo for a whole new round of lawyer bashing. Sigh.